Creating Breakbeats/oldskoolbeats

[Dj Britalian]

I am in the process of buying a XV88 Roland synthesiser, i am trying to create the oldskool beat sounds & piano/rave sounds. for example. bizarre Inc beat or prodigy beat.

How the hell did they do it??

even with new stuff i cant create that kind of beat or sound

Does anyone know how they did it back then, if they used a specific drum machine or synthesiser

Please help

[fugjostle]

Prodigy samples a lot of stuff and use two Roland W-30 Sampling Workstations for all the sampling stuff (and uses them to play loops live rather than sequence them). For stuff like Voodoo People and Poison he used a 303, 909 and a JD-990.

Something like Rebirth\Reason has them emulated.

Have a look at http://www.theprodigy.org/includes/equipment.shtml for a list of his setup

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Fug

[sirius]

Probably too late, but seriously, Reason 2 is virtually all the package you ever need.
I was tempted to buy an access virus and waldorf microwave hardware a few years ago, and OK they may have a few more sounds and functions but have you seen Reason and heard songs on Reasonstation.net !. frig me, some of them are hard to tell from records....albeit trance for 80% of them.
another bonus is you can get every sound imaginable (nearly) pre done for you in "Refil" CDs at about 50 quid a cd or sommet. You want the majority of sounds of a tr808 or 909 or a Juno6 (hoover) just get a CD or find em on the net!.
Im not buying Hardware anymore, unless Im particularly smitten by something. Im getting out of touch with new hardware, because until I can make tunes as good as I hear on reasonstation I dont wanna spend any money. Saying that though, if I was offered a Roland Mc303/505 for 100 quid I wouldnt turn it down.......

As for creating the sounds starting with a raw sine wave or something, that is very hard indeed and takes a hell of a lot of work if you cant find an existing similar 'patch' on your hardware and tweak it.......The oldskool sounds still amaze me, and (to me) are the hardest to recreate perfectly, you wonder if its one sound or two or three multilayered or something

Good luck buddy.