The laughably predictable Toon rant...

[sy69]

Osa sweepstake anyone regarding length of time before he throws a tantrum on live tv again.

[mr ben]

Originally Posted by Sheikh Yerbouti

Lots of points made here mate, most of which I agree with.
I don't wanna get into a whole "big club or not" debate, obviously I believe we are. Terminal underachievers without doubt, but in terms of weight of 'proper' genuine support, undoubtedly in the top 5 in this country (slag me off for that comment all you want, I won't argue it, that's just my opinion).

It does seem like an idiotic gamble only someone like Keegan would go for. The man has everything to lose and absolutely nothing to gain by taking over.

As for Michael Owen, he was signed by the last chairman (Trotters Independent Traders PLC) I doubt very much that whoever was in the managers' chair that week had much say in the matter. That was just how they liked to do things. And why when they left I was filled with optimism for change for the better, which makes this current Keystone Cops routine all the more distasteful.

I think you're totally right about the motives being appeasing the fans, and that it's a shortsighted panic appointment. It's obvious to me that all the chopping and changing is never gonna improve things. The board need to have some backbone and to actually give someone a decent chance in the job. Some money and some time to improve things. It's the only way. Another reason this whole KK thing is madness. I also totally agree that the game has moved on. I think KK will find that out very soon, and this time without John Hall's voluminous cheque-book to fall back on. Oh dear Mr. Keegan. I do so hope I'm wrong...

As for Houllier, can't argue against his track record, I just wonder if he'd be a strong enough character. I suspect he got an easier ride off the Liverpool fans than he ever would at Newcastle. I think that pretty much sums up the whole problem.

Anyway... they've done it now. no more excuses about "appointed by the last chairman"... Ashley's made his move. Now lets see how he goes on at sticking by it.

Oh... and Joey Barton... I couldn't care less if he stays or goes. We've got enough problems without signing players with that kind of reputation. If Big Sam couldn't keep him in line I doubt any manager can.

the big club thing was meant as a joke and im glad you took it that way

do you therefor think that maybe your expectations are a little to high , i mean my club has underachieved in the league for years but we would never resort to the kind of treatment sam got after a handful of games, at home this season we have played some awful stuff but our support of rafa has never wavered in fact its got stronger .......

under houllier we finished 7th or 8 th and played some of the worst football the club has played but never once did we get on his back because we realised he needed time , stability is the key and i agree with you that sam should of been given a lot more of it ..............

anyway i hope you dont go down , i enjoy my trips to tyneside lol

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Originally Posted by mr ben

do you therefor think that maybe your expectations are a little to high

my personal expectations, nope. all i want to see are signs that things are moving in the right direction. I'll settle for slow, steady, sustainable progress.
The odd backward step is always gonna happen, nature of the beast, shouldn't result in panic and dummy-spitting.

i'll get shot back home for saying this, but i think the problem is that the majority of toon fans are badly unrealistic. they want everything yesterday. they think that appointing a manager should bring instant success, perfect performances every game, and no off-days.

i did worry when i heard th ereports about mike ashley watching games from the stands. fair play to him for having the balls to do it though.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Dunno if KK had owt to do with picking the team tonight, but it's a decent line up considering...

Given

Carr, Taylor, Cacapa, Jose-Enrique

Milner, Emre, N'Zogbia, Duff

Viduka, Owen

Hopefully no more long-ball shite... players in their natural positions...
That'll do for a start... Next few league games will be interesting tho.

[mr ben]

Originally Posted by Sheikh Yerbouti

my personal expectations, nope. all i want to see are signs that things are moving in the right direction. I'll settle for slow, steady, sustainable progress.
The odd backward step is always gonna happen, nature of the beast, shouldn't result in panic and dummy-spitting.

i'll get shot back home for saying this, but i think the problem is that the majority of toon fans are badly unrealistic. they want everything yesterday. they think that appointing a manager should bring instant success, perfect performances every game, and no off-days.

i did worry when i heard th ereports about mike ashley watching games from the stands. fair play to him for having the balls to do it though.

well mate its good to talk to someone who talks sense about footy on here

to be honest im a bit torn on the man after the some of the storys surrounding his move to hamburg but he always gave us 110 percent in the red shirt so ill wish him all the best

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Yeah... we're already seeing the furor of expectation and he's only just walked in the door...
Whilst it's quite nice to ride the wave, you have to wonder if it's even possible for the reality to live up.
Still, I' ve been wrong before, I'd love to be wrong about this.

FWIW I think your lot have got no worries really. Would be criminal if politics and off-field shite spoiled the great work Benitez is doing.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Niall & Biffa the 2 local leg-ends responsible for nufc.com summed it up better than anyone else I've read:
Time will tell, but - bloody hell.....

[Shooms]

Originally Posted by mr ben

well mate its good to talk to someone who talks sense about footy on here

Originally Posted by Sheikh Yerbouti

FWIW I think your lot have got no worries really. Would be criminal if politics and off-field shite spoiled the great work Benitez is doing.

Get a room you pair of fuckin queers

Just been sent this & it didn't half make I laugh

The Gospel According to St James

Well I was looking forward to writing about summat other than the blinking North-East tragicomedy called 'Replacing Sam' but then someone whispered to me over the teatime pint that Kev was coming back.

I was coughing that pint out of my nostrils such was me delight. But then a Geordie pal came in with a leather-bound black book in his hand and he passed it solemnly over to me.

The book was called The Gospel According to St. James. He directed me to the following chapter. Maybe it is written in the stars.

'And lo it did come to pass that He That Would Love It, Love It, didst unto the barren wastes wander. And they that clad themselves in black and white, and named themselves after the the birds that steal, shall wander in the wilderness for one times 11 years.

And lo the land of the sainted James shall fall quiet, save for he that shall be called Shearer who didst among the faithful walk. Yet unto himself punditry didst call and on to a sofa retreated he to speak of lads and disappointments and top finishing.

Yet back to the Army of Toon who didst still loiter at the Gate of Gallow; for they shall have a new Master; and thy Lord shall be Shepherd and oh how thou shall want over and over again. For Fred shall become a shepherd of managers.

From the north shall he summon a pestilence of Sourness and he from Dalg-land that shall speak Dalglish; from the East shall stride he that is Ruud, who couldst not with the Shearer lie; from the South shall come Roeder, and he shall from the corner of his mouth speak - and what he shall speak of shall be Bobbins.

And from the West shall the Allardyce arrive and with mighty haste shall he the birds of the air disperse with balls of prodigious height. And what shall come to pass will be a very long pass indeed.

And they that unto the ground shall still their pilgrimage make shall cry unto the Allardyce: "Of what though dost, thou knows not! Of what thou dost, thou knows not!"

And yea even though Sirbobby shall his own mark make, he too shall pass, for the Lord thy Shepherd shall not want anyone for he canst not a decision stick to, the big lardy pillock.
And yet as it was foretold, the man shall come againDerek 'Robbo' Robson

And for they that cast themselves in white and black uponst the day before the Sabbath (at around 3pm usually unless Sky's shifted it to some stupid time); for them shall come a man like them, dressed like them, full-bellied and pasty of face as are they.

And he shall be called Ashley. And though he be flipping rolling in it, shall he lie down with them that can a season ticket barely buy. And he shall the Allardyce banish.

And then shall from Pompey a man be summoned and he shall um and ahh and back out for he is no mug and he knows a sh**e job when he sees one. And besides, there are not wings enough to fly him from the sun to the place where the frost forever lies and thou shalt walk with thy 20 Regals turned in thy cap-sleeved T-shirt.

And thus shall it come to pass that all those that look on in wonder and mirth shall pour forth their scorn, yea especially the Smoggie and the Mackem, for lowlier though they art they are not t**s up nor never shall be, so help us God.

And into the Valley of Death stride the Army of Toon and those amongst them shall not revive them: an Owen shall rise but every nine months from his sick-bed but all too soon returneth; he that is named Duff shall be just that; and Joseph of Barton shall arrive upon his donkey and turn into an ass.

And yet as it was foretold, the man shall come again. Ay, and ye shall know him for he shall begin each sentence with the word "'Opefully". And he shall upon the Tyne walk, for he that didst exhilirate with footie most forward-thinking is returned.

And shall the Shearer be when asked if he could be a number two, answer in riddles: 'Number 1, I don't think I'd want be a Number Two and Number 2, I don't know if he'd want one.'

And lo, shall the Geordies get carried away and over-excited and descend upon the club shop which shall run short of the letter K for the replica shirts.

And shall the cupboard that once did house the Fairs Cup remain unbejewelled and shall the Geordie nutcases not a toss give for they shall sing the name of Messiah and he shall them entertain.

And yea though the rest of us snigger, we shall their footy envy and their defence ridicule and we shall, despite it being a decision of sentimental stupidity, wish the lad and his followers all the best.

And shall they turn over Arsenal at the Emirates in the fourth round? Shall they b******s.'

[Shooms]

Mo'

The Wit And Wisdom Of Kevin Keegan


To be honest, we hardly need much of an excuse to issue a reminder of the great things the Newcastle messiah has said...

"They compare Steve McManaman to Steve Heighway and he's nothing like him, but I can see why - it's because he's a bit different."

"Despite his white boots, he has real pace... "

"You can't do better than go away from home and get a draw... "

"He can't speak Turkey, but you can tell he's delighted. "

"There'll be no siestas in Madrid tonight. "

"...using his strength. And that is his strength, his strength. "

"Gary always weighed up his options, especially when he had no choice. "

"I'm not disappointed - just disappointed. "

"The tide is very much in our court now. "

"Chile have three options - they could win or they could lose. "

"That would have been a goal if it wasn't saved. "

"I came to Nantes two years ago and it's much the same today, except that it's totally different. "

"A tremendous strike which hit the defender full on the arm - and it nearly came off. "

"The good news for Nigeria is that they're two-nil down very early in the game."

"The substitute is about to come on - he's a player who was left out of the starting line-up today. "

"That decision, for me, was almost certainly definitely wrong. "

"I know what is around the corner - I just don't know where the corner is. But the onus is on us to perform and we must control the bandwagon. "

"Hungary is very similar to Bulgaria. I know they're different countries... "

"In some ways, cramp is worse than having a broken leg. "

"The 33 or 34-year-olds will be 36 or 37 by the time the next World Cup comes around, if they're not careful. "

"England have the best fans in the world and Scotland's fans are second-to-none. "

"It's understandable that people are keeping one eye on the pot and another up the chimney. "

"I'd love to be a mole on the wall in the Liverpool dressing room at half-time. "

"It could be far worse for me if it was easy for me. "

"Discipline is not only very important, it's crucial. "

"Young Gareth Barry - he's young. "

"Argentina won't be at Euro 2000 because they're from South America. "

"They're the second best team in the world, and there's no higher praise than that."

"You don't get two chances at this level, or at any other level for that matter."

"You're not just getting international football, you're getting world football."

"Kanu, a guy with a heart as big as he is."

"Luis Figo is totally different to David Beckham, and vice versa."

"Football's always easier when you've got the ball."

"They don't come every three days, like they come after this one."

"I want more from David Beckham. I want him to improve on perfection."

"The tide is very much in our court now."

"There's a slight doubt about only one player, and that's Tony Adams, who definitely won't be playing tomorrow."

"We have spent three matches chasing a football."

"It's no longer an 11 man game."

"The Germans only have one player under 22, and he's 23."

"For some it's the ultimate job, for the others it's the last job."

"I've had an interest in racing all my life, or longer really."

"We managed to wrong a few rights."

"We are three games without defeat is another way of looking at it. But if we are honest we have taken two points from nine."

"He'll also be very dangerous from set-pieces. That means he'll be a threat from free-kicks and corners in the final third of the field."

"****** Tiatto is not going to make a mistake on purpose."

"I'll never play at Wembley again, unless I play at Wembley again."

"You need 88 points for the title and we've got 61 at present with 16 games to go, but if you set targets you limit yourself."

"We deserved to win this game after hammering them 0-0 in the first half."

"He's got a heart as big as his size, which isn't big, but his heart's bigger than that'

"Well, if that's true then it would be a big surprise, but then nothing surprises me in football these days."

"You get bunches of players like you do bananas, though that is a bad comparison."

"Not many teams will come to Arsenal and get anything, home or away."

"Nicolas Anelka left Arsenal for ?23million and they built a training ground on him."

"As far as I'm concerned, ****** Tiatto doesn't exist."

"One team with destiny already decided..."

"Maine Road was a great football stadium but as time moved on it stayed where it is...."

[Inchigh]

After the sacking of big sam, we were all debaiting at work on whoms gona take the bit between the teeth at nufc, and i came up with kev keegan on past records. he did the best for the club in recent history, so why not bring him back...hey presto, hes back. All that gordie lot up there deserve a good match, 40,000 watching come rain or shine.......................i,m a man u fan, and its a long tail to catch us up, but i do believe kk on tyneside can do just that............what a addage to the premiership...............good luck in the future the toon army, now you have a leader

just dont start the mind games ffs

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

yeah...
cautious optimism is the way i think.
not thinking next year's prem title & champions league are already a foregone conclusion like a lot of the knuckle dragging asshats up there.

comedy gold them last 2 posts Shooms... 'kin brilliant

[OldskoolDazed (al)]

Nauseating club. Nauseating owner, nauseating manager, nauseating players, nauseating fans.

Newcastle biggest underachivers there is keegan has done fuckall, glad when this sky/newcastle wankfest is over

ps The unemployment rate must be high in Newcastle, judging from all the inbreds who've turned up to see the mock messiah

Notice them braggin that theres a 30 000 sellout crowd to welcome the failure then bbc flick over to a empty bank of seats lol (WANKERS)


UP THE VILLA (WHO WERE, ARE WILL ALWAYS BE A BIGGER CLUB THAN THE BARCODES)

[mr ben]

Originally Posted by OldskoolDazed (al)

Nauseating club. Nauseating owner, nauseating manager, nauseating players, nauseating fans.

Newcastle biggest underachivers there is keegan has done fuckall, glad when this sky/newcastle wankfest is over

ps The unemployment rate must be high in Newcastle, judging from all the inbreds who've turned up to see the mock messiah

Notice them braggin that theres a 30 000 sellout crowd to welcome the failure then bbc flick over to a empty bank of seats lol (WANKERS)


UP THE VILLA (WHO WERE, ARE WILL ALWAYS BE A BIGGER CLUB THAN THE BARCODES)

oh now thats put the cat amonst the pidgeons al lol ........... got to admit ive been to newcatsle when theres been 18 odd thousand on in the mid to late eighties , so it is a bit of a myth about this fantastic support , all this special club stuff does get on my tits a little bit ......

imagine if manchester or liverpool only had one club !!!!!! ....... there is no division in newcastle thats why their all united as one .........

one thing which was highly embaressing in my opinion was the thousands that turned up to welcome michael owen lololol ....... id rather celebrate winning trophies than celebrate sighning players ..... players have to earn my heart and respect .......

it just seems to me that the geordies do a lot of straw clutching and i aint having a go .............

i remember a game at anfield in the early nineties when keegan had a good ( not great ) side and we beat them , i was talkin to a geordie in the pub afterwards and he was giving it the big one , how dare you beat us , were better than you .... cheeky cnut ... this from a lad whos team ONLY ONCE AVERAGED MORE THAN 25 THOUSAND FANS THROUGH THE EIGHTIES LOL ............ big club hmmmmm


it take a lot more than a load of bandwagon jumpers to be a truly big club ... in my opinion off course



keegan was on the radio before saying apart from the top 4 there is no bigger club .........well i can name a few of the top of my head

Everton , Villa and Spurs

Everton because they have consitently won more and have produced some really great sides particully the mid eighties team , great fan base ( two clubs one city )

Aston Villa because again have won more , get good crowds and have a european cup under their belt

and Spurs because again they have won more , were the first club to do the double and have a rich history of fantastics players


again just my opinion

i thinks it the " oh these fanatical geordies deserve a trophy" bullshit thats startin to piss everyone of


newcastle may have big ambition but it takes more than ambition to be a big club



footnote lol .. i dont think its the gerdies fault tbh , its a media thing .........

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Originally Posted by OldskoolDazed (al)

nauseating players

Except the ones you sign from us, eh?
Or the ones you try to sign but (thankfully) we have more sense than to let you.