Underage drinking & anti-sociable behaviour

[Inchigh]

Originally Posted by Shooms

Good point - they ought to introduce a sub-rank to differentiate between those there for punishment & those there out of choice for a career.

I still say bring back forehead branding

well said by both.

lets set up the osa party, and kick some decency into this country!!

i veto, me as the premier, mr radish and shooms deputy premiers, and all the members of osa members on the cabinet

what do you reckon?

[Shooms]

Originally Posted by Ed

She's the **** that created this. The fuck you, I'm looking after me attitude. The loadsamoney 80's are now all aspiring to some mindless celebrity, clockwork orange type reality. Burgess was spot on.
Labour have carried it on, but look no further than Thatcherism. She finished this country as far as I'm concerned. The post war nail in the coffin.

I can barely remember life before Thatch... Callaghan vagually but really my formative years were under ole vinegar tits, therefore I can't comment on the state of the country before this.... however the videos I've seen 3 day working weeks, petrol rationing, bin men strikes & strikes in general doesn't cast the Labour govt pre Thatch in a good light

[Mr Radish]

Originally Posted by Inchigh

well said by both.

lets set up the osa party, and kick some decency into this country!!

i veto, me as the premier, mr radish and shooms deputy premiers, and all the members of osa members on the cabinet

what do you reckon?

Scary thought!!

[Diane]

For the majority of people it's just incomprehensible how a person could do this to another. What in the world must be going on in the mind of a person to inflict so much evil onto another life?. Every time I hear of an incident like this the first thoughts that cross my mind are how could they do such a thing????? why would they do such a thing?????.

The thought of someone using violence against another (apart from in an absolute need of self defence, that's different) and gaining pleasure from it just thouroughly sickens me. As for the parents, there are just so many attributes to be taken into account. Not all bad kids / adults come from bad parents, maybe some do, maybe it's the majority, I don't pretend to know the answer, haven't a clue!. Someone needs to start finding out though !!!

There definitely needs to be a major overhaul in the law, and not just for teenagers and there needs to be some serious work (and possibly eradication) done with these people. Fair enough there has always been evil/sick/crazy mofo's but it sure does feel more commonplace nowadays.

I agree with stronger laws / locking people away from the rest of society, but it only helps us all if they're never let back in again!!! and maybe like others have suggested castration/sterilisation to stop it once and for all !!!

I think my strongest view on this is the need to find out why, properly and once and for all, no more theoretical viewpoints, but real evidence so that it can maybe be fixed? and if not and we just have to accept that some people are just bad through and through, this time can we please find somewhere other than Australia to ship the bahhhhhsterds to, please !!!

[adamw]

It's definitely a social thing, the fabric of British society is breaking down around us and no one is doing anything about it.

So until that begins to change the problem will only get worse... time to emigrate???

[Jiglo]

Bring back the stocks I say

But fine parents for the actions of their kids

[jenwah]

Originally Posted by ilovepiano

They should all be sterelised. We don't need scum like this continuing to breed.

Stop benefits, unless you're actually disabled. Get a job and pay your own way. If you can't afford a family, then don't have one.

Stop all this PC bollocks

Rip up the mess that is the human rights act

Bring back the cane in schools

Life in jail should mean exactly that, no time off for good behaviour

Bring back the death penalty

this is what is needed!!!!!!!!

i really more than any other thing agree wit bringin the cane and death penalty back. there is jus no deterrance anymore!!!! it makes me really angry.

this is the reason that this horrendous generation of dirty rotten scally b@stards and scum bags r here - there has been no control for their lives!!! they need to really b controlled and punished, very very harshly!!!!!!!!!

[Jiglo]

Boot camp and the death penalty doesn't work as a deterent in America, so it's deeper issues that need addressing first sadly

[nazzer]

Originally Posted by jenwah

this is what is needed!!!!!!!!

i really more than any other thing agree wit bringin the cane and death penalty back. there is jus no deterrance anymore!!!! it makes me really angry.

this is the reason that this horrendous generation of dirty rotten scally b@stards and scum bags r here - there has been no control for their lives!!! they need to really b controlled and punished, very very harshly!!!!!!!!!

Exactly, i can only speak from personal experience- but i was far worried by my parents finding out i'd been upto mischief- than the police, that was what kept me on the straight and narrow. The fear of getting twatted by my dad for being v bad. *cough, i mean respect for my parents*

Granted i went a bit of the rails, during my clubbing career, but never went to jail, or had more than an overnight stay in a cop shop.

Kids today aren't scared of police, parents, anything. No fear apart from rival gangs / their peers. ooooooh don't get me started. (again) lol

[adamw]

Originally Posted by nazzer

Exactly, i can only speak from personal experience- but i was far worried by my parents finding out i'd been upto mischief- than the police, that was what kept me on the straight and narrow. The fear of getting twatted by my dad for being v bad. *cough, i mean respect for my parents*

Granted i went a bit of the rails, during my clubbing career, but never went to jail, or had more than an overnight stay in a cop shop.

Kids today aren't scared of police, parents, anything. No fear apart from rival gangs / their peers. ooooooh don't get me started. (again) lol

Fair comments. One and all.

[ilovepiano]

Originally Posted by nazzer

Kids today aren't scared of police, parents, anything. No fear apart from rival gangs / their peers. ooooooh don't get me started. (again) lol

Yeah, and it's hardly supprising when you've got twonks like this:



And I quote ""It lets the youngsters see a more human side to the police. The kids see us down there skateboarding and see us as cool, rather than something they have to fear."

WTF?


Police unveil their latest weapon against crime - bobbies on skateboards | the Mail on Sunday

[adamw]

Freshly confiscated off some chav round the corner who robbed it from cash-converters...

[Brock Landers]

Originally Posted by ilovepiano

Yeah, and it's hardly supprising when you've got twonks like this:



And I quote ""It lets the youngsters see a more human side to the police. The kids see us down there skateboarding and see us as cool, rather than something they have to fear."

WTF?


Police unveil their latest weapon against crime - bobbies on skateboards | the Mail on Sunday

The same report in the Independent had the copper trying to ride the skateboard backwards. Really Cool.

What they should do with the chavvy scumbags in Warrington is send them to Afghanistan armed with nothing more than a swiss army knife and tell them to kill as many insurgents as possbile. Those that fail die and are taken out of the gene pool. Those that succeed in taking out some UK armed forces killing afghan scumbags should then be summarily shot upon return from their missions to save any skills learnt in the field from coming back over here and are taken out of the gene pool.

This would definitely cut down on the number of statistical casualties on our actual armed forces.

Decoys anyone?

Either that (and I have said this before) the family/friends should be allowed to exact punishment with the same weapons/numbers locked in a secure area.

Surely this would be more of a deterrent?

Kick somebodies head almost off their shoulders and the friends/family can do the same to you, taking as much time as they like?

Don't get me started on chavs..........

[Inchigh]

Originally Posted by adamw

It's definitely a social thing, the fabric of British society is breaking down around us and no one is doing anything about it.

So until that begins to change the problem will only get worse... time to emigrate???

hit the nail on the head with "the fabric of british".....................we are all british, so why lie down and be persicuted by what to tell us right and wrong..............firstly on how to treat our children, fuck that ill sue you shit"!! if there bang out of order, give em a thick ear.......it did nowt wrong for me, as it did most of you....................till the age of them being 18, you can be responsable for there actions..........be a disciplarian.........nip it in the bud.........i think im ok on that front, coz, i,ll put the fear of god into my sons freinds if they disaprove me...............but avin said that im still a kid, so its a case of brads dad being ace....sorted