Do you believe in Karma?

[Ed]

Originally Posted by amymars

I don't know really....

A few years ago when I was very depressed....I went to some talking therapy. After a few weeks it was obvious that my problems and negative feelings were caused by patterns of thought and action which lead me to being in that state. The women I was seeing actually drew a plan on paper of how I end up feeling depressed, the routes to it etc. and why.
Some of the Karma stuff you've mentioned sounds a little like that. Being self aware, stopping yourself from indulging in your own negativity, maybe Im wrong but thats how Im understanding it???

If Im understanding correctly, then being aware of Karma can only be a good way to live I guess!

Sounds like you got lucky with that therapist.
I guess I'd add, and this is where Zen differs from some modern psychological approaches, is that feeling negative emotions isn't a bad thing. Its totally natural, its part of the universe. Where we feel real pain and suffering is where we attach the idea 'I shouldn't be feeling like this' or 'Its bad to feel sad' or 'its bad to be depressed'. Because we then try and hide from those emotions.

You have to take them on the chin, feel the pain and move on positively. Otherwise, you'll be going through it again.

[Jonno]

Originally Posted by amymars

I don't know really....

A few years ago when I was very depressed....I went to some talking therapy. After a few weeks it was obvious that my problems and negative feelings were caused by patterns of thought and action which lead me to being in that state. The women I was seeing actually drew a plan on paper of how I end up feeling depressed, the routes to it etc. and why.
Some of the Karma stuff you've mentioned sounds a little like that. Being self aware, stopping yourself from indulging in your own negativity, maybe Im wrong but thats how Im understanding it???

If Im understanding correctly, then being aware of Karma can only be a good way to live I guess!

Its Amelie btw.

From what you describe she was using a Cognitive Behavioural Therapy approach, or perhaps she was a CB Therapist? Its used quite frequently in Child and Adolescent mental health teams. Its principiles are based on negative thought parking and shit.

I don't belive in karma btw, other than the obvious.

[amymars]

Originally Posted by Jonno

Its Amelie btw.

From what you describe she was using a Cognitive Behavioural Therapy approach, or perhaps she was a CB Therapist? Its used quite frequently in Child and Adolescent mental health teams. Its principiles are based on negative thought parking and shit.

I don't belive in karma btw, other than the obvious.

not sure, she was just a university counsellor, but I must say she was really good. They probably see the same problems arising with students in University I imagine.

[Pixie]

Cheers for all the responses guys and I guess that maybe it's not solely down to Karma why we experience certain things and that a lot of it does have to do with how we react to certain situations.

For example, if you're a liar and you hurt other people with your luies then eventually someone, somehwere is gonna lie to you a wreck your head twice as bad - I suppose you can't pidgeon hole the thing that causes this as being 'karma' but I do believe that there's something that causes good things to happen to good people etc. Maybe it's the belief in karma and therefore you modify your actions accordingly and that in turn breeds good responses from others?

Ed - yeah if you find out the name and author of that book I'ed be interested to read what it has to say. Deffo. Cheers

Amelie - do yuo think that maybe someone is looking for the right path to take and that various therapies can jus tbring these behaviours to light or do you just not believe in it at all? I'm really interested in the phychology behind all of this as well if you have any thoughts?

Jiglo - I'm sure it will all work out for you mate. If you're already feeling like you have something to aim towards, then the good stuff will come to you in time.

[Veee]

things go round and come back round as foook. theres no hiding from it.i once tried to pretend they didn't. i failed miserably needeless to say.

i'd like to summarise by adding.... people in glass houses shud in no way consider lobbin rocks about. if the need is that great, then i't time to consider relocating to a house made of summet a bit more substantial.

[slaggymong]

Vee is living proof Karma is real! To vee, you know why mate, etc.

[slaggymong]

Originally Posted by pianoman

Yes I do. without a doubt. deffo what goes around comes around.

when's barrie jay coming round then eh

[Jiglo]

Originally Posted by Dee

.............. but there's gonna be one day when that person needs me........and guess what - I can say "Sorry i'm busy"...... Karma will bite them on the ass!
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Wouldn't that just create more negative karma though?

[Miss C]

I think we create/are the cause of almost everything that happens to us somehow, whether we can morally attribute the consequences to our actions or not, at some, however distant or unconscious level, I think we cause most of them.

Haven't fully made my mind up about karma, still need to spend some time on the concept...

[Dee]

I kinda believe that too Miss C.
And it's true that one choice you make can affect your whole life. This is a great subject because there is so much to be talked about, different concepts, depths and perceptions.
I do believe that everything happens for a reason, not every descision is always going to be the right descision, and out of every bad situation something good comes out of it.
Another concept: If you accidentally hurt someone or unknowingly upset someone - what happens to Karma then?

[betty spaghetti]

How can you not??? Karma does have alot to answer for. I know its for real, for reasons im not gonna go into. Its real as fook, I dare not to believe in it. To quote Slaggymong: Vee is proof, she well upholds it, try telling her its not real...How can you argue with Karma, you cant itll just come back on ya!

What goes around, comes around to fook. I know. Have good Karma ppl. Always think positive, be positive, dont hold grudges, be forgiving, understanding and true and all them things will be returned back to you

[Shooms]

Anyone that likes Karma is proper gay.....





























Lamb tikka & mushroom balti is much nicer

[blue jammer]

Shooms, they are both gay as a window...





















Madras is where its at

[Shooms]

Originally Posted by blue jammer

Shooms, they are both gay as a window...





Madras is where its at

Balti is as Brum as a bosting We were reared on it

Back to karma... yes I believe... life is all experience... we are presented with choices & it's how we choose act on them that makes us grow... sometimes the choices re-appear in different guises over & over coz we didn't learn last time

I firmly believe that you attract the energy back that yourself give out

[nics]

Originally Posted by Shooms

I firmly believe that you attract the energy back that yourself give out

so thats why ur always acting like a cnuty puffwanking piss stain then you big girls blouse