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Old 2nd April 2007, 08:34 PM
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I would vote for bringing back the old Wican ways... that's coz deep down I'm an old hippy & to be honest the cycle of nature means a lot more to me than the words of a good bloke that have been bastardised, twisted & have lost the original meaning... organised religion or dogma of any sorts gets my back up...

To be honest... who does organised religion of any denomination serve other than the formalised structure of itself ? When you look at the absolute poverty of a place like Meh 'hico & the squalor that people live in while their churches are decked out perfectly... it's sickening...
I agree, hence me saying that its the fact that taxpayers (if its true) money is being spent on summat so immoral (imo) regardless of chosen God. I am not arsed what God, just let the supporters pay for it themselves.

You could have a jacuzzi in every council baths across the land for that 100millski!
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I agree, hence me saying that its the fact that taxpayers (if its true) money is being spent on summat so immoral (imo) regardless of chosen God. I am not arsed what God, just let the supporters pay for it themselves.

You could have a jacuzzi in every council baths across the land for that 100millski!
Here Here and lol an all.. 2 be honest i havn't seeen anything about this in the papers or on the box so i'm not sure either It all looks pretty legitimate 2 me tho....
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What gets my goat is that taxpayers money (if it is) is funding any religious centre. This money would be clearly better spent on other areas.
I agree, money wud well be better spent on hospitals etc, just dont get it. Everythin has to be bigger and better, yet a waste of money eg the millenium dome.

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I don't see why people are up in arms because its a mosque any more than they would be if its (another) church. Why is it so offensive to people? If its taxpayers money, then surley anyone who pays tax should have thier religion considered if we are to spend a fair chunk on a new place of worship. I don't see why Christians have the monopoly.
but i wudnt be happy if they did build a mosque like they say, im all for multi culture etc, have no probs with it, but it is england, our landmarks, church's etc, its what makes england england! I cant see a christian church would ever be built in an islamic country
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I agree, money wud well be better spent on hospitals etc, just dont get it. Everythin has to be bigger and better, yet a waste of money eg the millenium dome.



but i wudnt be happy if they did build a mosque like they say, im all for multi culture etc, have no probs with it, but it is england, our landmarks, church's etc, its what makes england england! I cant see a christian church would ever be built in an islamic country
itll never work!
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but i wudnt be happy if they did build a mosque like they say, im all for multi culture etc, have no probs with it, but it is england, our landmarks, church's etc, its what makes england england! I cant see a christian church would ever be built in an islamic country
I wouldn't be chuffed either- but my reasons are diff to those who say simply because its non Christian. In addition to those already stated, i also think that aesthetically (sp) it would piss me off. The same as fuck off sky scrapers or really naff new housing estates in once lush fields (we have one about 5 miles from us that looks like a mini New England- all wood pannelled and painted blue and sheet ).Surley you oppose these, as they are not really what i think of when i think of trad England.

As for the Church in an Islamic counrty, i dare say you're right, but its a whole seperate debate and besides, an argument cannot be based on what would/would not happen in other country as its irrelivant.

People should be free to follow whatever God they like, without discrimiation.
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My problem is the political implications....I'm not religious and I would agree that we shouldn't waste taxpayers money on it in any way, but I think its a rather stupid move by the government. It shows an utter lack of understanding of the people in Britain, and it demostrates that the government fails to acknowledge the majority of the general publics fears and hopes.
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Coz it's our faaaaakin country
actually this was a pagan country before christianity reared its ugly head
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My problem is the political implications....I'm not religious and I would agree that we shouldn't waste taxpayers money on it in any way, but I think its a rather stupid move by the government. It shows an utter lack of understanding of the people in Britain, and it demostrates that the government fails to acknowledge the majority of the general publics fears and hopes.
show me anything anywhere that it says the taxpayer is paying for this

people are getting the wrong end of the stick here

spending 25billion on a new nuclear weapons system is a bigger waste of money IMO
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I wouldn't be chuffed either- but my reasons are diff to those who say simply because its non Christian. In addition to those already stated, i also think that aesthetically (sp) it would piss me off. The same as fuck off sky scrapers or really naff new housing estates in once lush fields (we have one about 5 miles from us that looks like a mini New England- all wood pannelled and painted blue and sheet ).Surley you oppose these, as they are not really what i think of when i think of trad England.

As for the Church in an Islamic counrty, i dare say you're right, but its a whole seperate debate and besides, an argument cannot be based on what would/would not happen in other country as its irrelivant.

People should be free to follow whatever God they like, without discrimiation.
i haven't seen anyone putting up a poll about the ugly fucking gherkin skyscraper that is slap bang in the midlle of laandan

i bet if it had been a muslim building there would have been uproar
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Never mind Carlin, Archer was the daddy for me Proper cynical & intelligent fucker who knew how to wind up the establishment
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actually this was a pagan country before christianity reared its ugly head
& so it shall be again We shall celebrate Beltane once more friends
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satisfy your big fuck off mosque fetish

Move to Bradford where I am, and Thats all you will see.
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i think its a fecking joke...there is gonna be more mosques over here than churches, i mean they dont even look nice they look horrible, looks like a great big satsumas sat in the sky...get rid of the lot of em i say...what ever happened to 'go brittannia' 'in god we trust' n stuff...now im not racist, but when i went to cyprus, we went on a little trip and we went to a monastry, which required all women to cover up-fair enuff...its your country, your religion.im not gonna come over an build a church...now why cant foreign ppl do the same for us???? a bit of respect for our heritage/history is due here i think.

i dont think churchill would of allowed this
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