Mormons

[amymars]

my dad always invites them in to outwit them.......they actually leave quite fast. Id love to have the guts to argue it out with them too but im too polite.

[amymars]

anyway, we shud pass all religious topics on to shooms, as the messiah and all he should be able to give us the real deal answer -wise.

[MizzDeedz]

I am always too polite and just say sorry I am not interested and smile nicely. I let them do their little speech and they always give me a copy of the watchtower mag (which i sometimes read to be polite then it gets binned)
I cant be horrid to them tbh - it must be awful getting the door slammed in ya face day after day.
I make it quite clear they cant convert me or anything like that and that I was baptised another religion and im not willing to change (even though im a athiest)

My ex once shouted to them out the window after i chatted to them at the door that we were devil worshippers - i didnt know where to look!! i nearly died on the doorstep, lol

Still they never came back, lol
oh well

[Lozzie]

Take them into your house and give them a nice "disgussion" over tea and macaroons...they'll be begging to leave! hahaha


Had some Devout Christians coming into my work once ...unluckilly for them...I'd just had a massive bomb of fet, and gabbed for ages and backed them into many a corner...hahaha...wrong twat to pick on!!!!LOLOLOL

[sirius]

Id bring them in, see what the craic was, and ask them which side of the fence they sit on, and which outcome they are prepared to fight for:

Dar al-Islam
Dar al-Harb
Dar al-Kufr

If its the latter two, even with a mellow twist of thier own, I will offer them a cup of tea and a Jaffa Cake and wish them well on thier travels. If its the former, or a sort of vague looking 'not sure' non commital palm it off onto something else thats not a hot potato, I will escort them through the armourment room and back to the driveway.

Perhaps I might ask them why I shouldnt be an Odinist...

Odinism is the name we give to the original, indigenous form of heathen religion practised by our forefathers, the Angles, Saxons and Jutes, and by the related Teutonic peoples of the Continent. It is, accordingly, the ancestral, native religion of the English people, and, as such, our very own spiritual heritage

Odinism is a life-affirming religion. Odinists value and esteem everything that sustains, promotes, enhances and enriches life. Odinists do not see our life on Earth as merely being a preparation for a life hereafter. We see it as an end in itself, as something positive, good and hallowed. We rejoice in and celebrate all that is wonderful in the world around us: the fruitfulness of Nature, the changing seasons, the comforts of family and home, human creativity, and our personal and collective achievements. Odinists do not indulge in fasting and penitence; rather, we worship the gods in our feasting and merry-making.

The Gods of this religion do not require us to abase and humble ourselves; they do not seek to make of us craven slaves. Odinists therefore do not bow or kneel or kow-tow to the gods, but address them proudly like free, upstanding men and women. Odinists regard our gods, not as our masters, but as firm friends and powerful allies.

Odinists place great emphasis on the concept of personal freedom (and therefore repudiate all forms of totalitarianism), but accept the corollary of the necessity of a common law for the common good. Odinist ethics are not expressed in terms of prohibitions and commandments, but in terms of the positive virtues which all Odinists should aspire to practise. We call these the 'Nine Noble Virtues': Courage, Truth, Honour, Fidelity, Discipline, Hospitality, Industriousness, Self-reliance and Perseverance.

Odinists strongly disapprove of the way Christians and Muslims have engaged in missionary work among less developed peoples, undermining their traditional customs and way of life, while imposing upon them alien moral and cultural standards.
Odinists do not desire to convert the whole world to Odinism, because, whereas paganism is universal, the Odinist form of paganism is ethnospecific. Indeed, were we to receive a request to administer the Odinist Pledge of Faith to, say, a Japanese or a Nigerian, we would encourage that person to embrace his indigenous form of heathenism, because heathens of all nations believe in being true to oneself and to one's ancestors.

Id give 'em a run for thier money


Sirius

[MizzDeedz]

[Miss C]

Originally Posted by Lozzie

Had some Devout Christians coming into my work once ...unluckilly for them...I'd just had a massive bomb of fet, and gabbed for ages and backed them into many a corner...hahaha...wrong twat to pick on!!!!LOLOLOL

Hehehehe i'd love to have been a fly on the wall for that one. Bet they didn't see that one coming when they walked into Centrefolds!

[Lozzie]

Originally Posted by Miss C

Hehehehe i'd love to have been a fly on the wall for that one. Bet they didn't see that one coming when they walked into Centrefolds!

it was a highlight, let me tell you...well funny!

[Miss C]

Originally Posted by Lozzie

it was a highlight, let me tell you...well funny!

I bet it was a highlight for them too telling that one in church on sunday!!!

[blue jammer]

Not had any round here, maybe the scallies have eaten them or sommat

If they did knock on my door, I'd make them the most interesting cup of tea they'd ever had

[MizzDeedz]

lol that reminds of that film saving grace where those two old ladies took a cutting of her 'weed' plant and made tea with it. They were off their faces, lol and giggling away like anything

[Jonno]

Getting involved in this a bit late but Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons are both definitely Christians. Absolutely no two ways about it.

They're also both completely fucking mad as far as religions go (which is saying something cause all religions are fucking mad!)

Jehovah's witnesses have been saying the world was going to end and christ is going to return, more or less since they began. Jesus should have returned in 1873, but when he didn't they said 1874, then 1914, and so on and so forth!

Mormons on the other hand believe that an angel came down and visited some bloke in America in the 1800's, who was given a book inscribed on golden plates, so he copied it down, and then the silly fucker went and lost the original golden plates (you'd have thought he'd have been more careful with them eh!). Mormon's also weren't crazy keen on blacks until 1978 (yes 1978), before then they claimed blacks had the curse of Ham (which ain't a good thing in Christian terms).

The thing is though people believe this shit. Huge amounts of people. That's what I find truly amazing. Both religions have membership in the millions (Jehovs have doubled in the past 20 years!). For me it goes to show that, as a race, we ain't as clever as we like to think.

[Elev8/Levit8]

Originally Posted by Jonno

The thing is though people believe this shit. Huge amounts of people. That's what I find truly amazing. Both religions have membership in the millions (Jehovs have doubled in the past 20 years!). For me it goes to show that, as a race, we ain't as clever as we like to think.

I don't think it's got owt to do with cleverness... Just think it proves that there's a spiritual aspect to humanity. People need to believe in summat (which is why God made Newcastle United).

I don't subscribe to any of the religious cobblers meself, but those deets about Mormonism & Jovoism just go to prove that people can be made to believe anything, if it's sold to them right. This, coupled with freedom of speech/expression is a very dangerous combination. No diggity. Especially given how much power is wielded by some of these religious nutjobs, esp. in the U.S... I mean look at the wars... Israel/Palestine, even Iraq etc. all fundamentally revolving around religion.

I'm not saying Freedom of speech/expression is bad, just that there are aspects of human nature which can be exploited, and our need to believe in a higher power is one of them. Where there's potential to exploit people, then there's potential to make money. Just another thing which serves to attract nutters (besides those who are just religious nutters for the sake of it).

I worry for people with strong religious beliefs, whatever they happen to be. They are placing themselves at risk, and they are tacitly helping to promote the nutjobs (how can you diss one person's religion, however mental, when yuou're religious yerself?).

When the jovos come round, I don't feel the least bit guilty for slamming the door in their face. If they are motivated enough to go knocking randomly on people's doors, then me slamming mine won't deter them. I didn't ask them to come round, so they can take me as they find me...

[Jonno]

Originally Posted by Elev8/Levit8

I don't think it's got owt to do with cleverness... Just think it proves that there's a spiritual aspect to humanity.

In which case then everyone, especially the so called intellegensia, would be looking for spiritual enlightenment, but they're not.

It seems to me that the people who actually believe this shit, would stuggle with the intricacies of evolution or the big bang for example.

[Elev8/Levit8]

I think there's a spiritual aspect to everyone, just some people are taken in by blokes with mullets & shiny suits offering seats in heaven for cash, and others aren't...

It's true yer religious types do struggle to reconcile with Evolution/Big bang etc... In my experience their arguments get all wooly & start on about "aah but what about before the big bang"... or "where did evolution start from".

It reeks of trying desperately to make the facts fit what they believe, instead of the other way round.