My Friends mother

[Undeniable1]

Recently died, well on Sunday.

Last year she was diagnosed with Motor neurone disease. It took 1 year before she died.

For those that don't know, this disease attacks the muscles, and there is no cure. Once you have it you have tops 3 years to live, and the death is a slow painful one where you cant eat food because you cant chew or swallow as your muscles don't work, you cant walk or do anything for yourself and you cant speak. Eventually you die through suffocation because your lungs stop working and you cant breath.

Do you think that people should have the right to chose when they go if they are in that situation or do you think that it is not up to ourselves to choose when we die and we should let nature take its own course?

[Northern Star]

How awful

Personnally speaking im all for euthanasia

Esp if the person is capable of making the descision themselves......i for one certainly wouldnt want to suffer and im sure none of my family or friends would want that either.....i cant understand why they feel it fit that such descisions should be made by doctors when its actually not their life to decide it really angers me does that

[nathan]

Originally Posted by Undeniable1

Recently died, well on Sunday.

Last year she was diagnosed with Motor neurone disease. It took 1 year before she died.

For those that don't know, this disease attacks the muscles, and there is no cure. Once you have it you have tops 3 years to live, and the death is a slow painful one where you cant eat food because you cant chew or swallow as your muscles don't work, you cant walk or do anything for yourself and you cant speak. Eventually you die through suffocation because your lungs stop working and you cant breath.

Do you think that people should have the right to chose when they go if they are in that situation or do you think that it is not up to ourselves to choose when we die and we should let nature take its own course?

all the way for me

[Stylee]

Having had family who have died from similar illness and witnessing first hand how somebody can go from being the life and sole, strong and independent to a mere shodow of who they were, and the way this effects them mentaly and how they have hated that being the case i would have to say yes.

People should have the option, we are suposed to be free to make our own decisions, yet some dicks in government seem to think they have the right to say who and what we are, f*ck all of that, every person has the right to decide when is there time and the right to decide how they wil handle these situations. Its having these rights that define who we are, down the line people have forgotten this, they say people in the arab nations etc are oppressed, i think we need to look closer to home now more than ever, it our rights that are being taken away by the suites...

I totaly back peoples decision to take there own life, and for once would urge this shitty governemt to back it too, and to give these people a place they can go and live out their remaining days with dignity and pride, god sake they do it in sweden etc and people from the uk have to go over there to carry out their wishes!

[Stylee]

in addition to the above

FUCK THE MAN!!!

[Shooms]

Sorry to hear your sad news fella

As for Euthanasia I personally feel it's a right minefield....

For me talking about me personally it's all about quality of life... if I loose my independance, am in severe pain, suffering with a terminal illness or become someone elses burden / responsibility then I'm checking out... no-one else is gonna be wiping my bum for me

And I'll be checking out in a manner I wanna go to.... I think I'd love to be pushed out of a plane @ 30'000 feet with no parachute What a rush before you die

As I said that's my personal opinion - as for introduction of Euthanasia across the board I am in favour of it as it's down to personal choice n the quality of life a person has / will be expected to have for the rest of their life...

It has to be a personal choice though imo.... & where it get's sticky is the communication of this choice.... the person may regret it or not be fully compus-mentus to be able to make that decision etc etc Also I don't believe that anyone should have the ability to make that choice on behalf of the person in question...although in reality this is what doctors are deciding on a day to day basis across the planet...

A right thought provoking thread this...

['Shabba']

Originally Posted by Undeniable1

Recently died, well on Sunday.

Last year she was diagnosed with Motor neurone disease. It took 1 year before she died.

For those that don't know, this disease attacks the muscles, and there is no cure. Once you have it you have tops 3 years to live, and the death is a slow painful one where you cant eat food because you cant chew or swallow as your muscles don't work, you cant walk or do anything for yourself and you cant speak. Eventually you die through suffocation because your lungs stop working and you cant breath.

Do you think that people should have the right to chose when they go if they are in that situation or do you think that it is not up to ourselves to choose when we die and we should let nature take its own course?

I used to nurse Motor Neurone patients, it' an awfull illness!!

I'm actually writing a 5,000 word paper at the moment about the morals of euthanasia.

[Shooms]

Originally Posted by Shabba

I'm actually writing a 5,000 word paper at the moment about the morals of euthanasia.

I'd like to read that please

[Undeniable1]

Originally Posted by Shabba

I used to nurse Motor Neurone patients, it' an awfull illness!!

I'm actually writing a 5,000 word paper at the moment about the morals of euthanasia.

It is an awfull illness, I cant believe how quickly she went down hill, it took 3 months before she couldnt walk any longer all really sad.

['Shabba']

Originally Posted by Shooms

I'd like to read that please

When it's finished you are more than welcome, won't be for a good few weeks though, i'm still in the research phase

[sirius]

I think people should be allowed to choose. The hard bit comes when/if they change thier minds when they are unable to let you know or whatever, but in general, people should be able to decide thier own fate, we dont belong to the state, the state belongs to us.

What I would probably suggest though is a group of medical doctors or somebody to be with the person and thier family for the long haul, so they know its 'legitimate' that they wanted to die and at what stage theyd like that to happen - otherwise I fear (in this harsh world) people would start bumping off thier relatives to get the house/inheritance etc, because unfortunately families can be very disjointed now, and somebody may only be in contact with a cousins' nephew or other relatively distant relation, and they are in effect strangers.

If all that side is tied up well, I dont see a problem with it.

Sirius

[jenwah]

its all very well and good to argue that they should b allowed to make a choice of whether or not they suffer, like in the case of that diane pretty, she was campaigning for it, now if someone wanted to go as far as to campaign for it, then they should be allowed it.

there are so many humane ways to end someones life medically, and people with long term, chronic, degenerative diseases should definitely be allowed the option to consider it.

i also understand that the person may change their mind, but at the end of the day, if given an injection to put them to sleep, and then given a lethal infection, if there is any doubt in the patients mind they will b able to express it at the point pf injection wont they. (if u know what i mean) then they can be woken up normally havin decided they do not want to die.

i personally would rather die than have a degenerative disease, or if (god forbid) i was in an accident that left me mentally impaired in such a way i couldn't function on my own, i would want to die. i wouldnt want people seeing me like that, i would want people to remember me as me. not as someone who cant do anythin i used to b able to do.

people think that as long as a person is alive, they are still there no matter what state they are in and so they cling on to that, but the thing is, the person they used to be has died already, and all that is left is a constant reminder of who that person used to be. so keeping someone alive if there are goin to be braindamaged, a vegetable state, or degeneratively disabled, is extremely selfish.

i think that the population should have cards like donor cards, where, if they were in an accident, and there was a choice to (for example) turn off the life support machine or have them as a vegetable, their wishes would b displayed on this card. or on diagnosis, they should b allowed to decide then if they want to die before the symptoms of the disease get too great. (does that make sense???)

this way, it is certain that the decision is made by the patiient themselves and not anyone else around them, it would b a bit safer in the knowledge that there was no ulterior motive from the surroundin family as sirius pointed out earlier.

(sorry thats a bit long, but i swear, i could go on for hours about this issue!!!!)

['Shabba']

Originally Posted by jenwah

its all very well and good to argue that they should b allowed to make a choice of whether or not they suffer, like in the case of that diane pretty, she was campaigning for it, now if someone wanted to go as far as to campaign for it, then they should be allowed it.

Diane Petty went to court asking that her husband be immune from prosectution if he aided her suicide which is obviously illegal and she had that refused. People can make what is known as a living will in which they can state the extent to which they would want to be kept alive under certain circumstances but this refers to refusal of treatment rather than active Euthanasia which is to actually kill someone.

Euthanasia does happen to a certain extent in that a Doctor can prescribe medication if he can justify that the patient needed it to control pain or whatever, even though he knows it is likely to result in the patients death.

[RiskyLady]

Being a care worker i see alot of different termenal illneses and i think people should have the right to end it if they want too i know that i would'nt want to die with no dignaty. We have just found out that andy's grandma has got a brain tumor and has 3-6 months to live she seems to be going down hill very quickly and im hoping she's not going to suffer too much

[Lozzie]

Originally Posted by Shabba

I'm actually writing a 5,000 word paper at the moment about the morals of euthanasia.

I actually wouldn't mind a read on that......


I think it is the indeviduals life, they should have the wright to choose to end it. I wouldn't want to be incapeable to such an extent. I think law or no, as soon as I could feel myself going. I'd have a big party to say bye to everyone, sort everyone/thing out. Then jump........