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Old 25th May 2004, 02:45 PM
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MULLET is a bit boring though don't ya reckon?

I see your MULLET and raise you a NUMPTY

I see your mullet hehehe oh dear, I'll get me coat, err I mean goat
OK HUMPTY DUMPTY!!

I'll double your NUMPTY and raise you a De' kuji

(Czech for thank you, pronounced Dick Wee!!!!)
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Old 25th May 2004, 02:48 PM
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OK HUMPTY DUMPTY!!

I'll double your NUMPTY and raise you a De' kuji

(Czech for thank you, pronounced Dick Wee!!!!)
Ahhh Fank yoo, your Czech is in the post along with a GOAT

*titter titter*



(Dick Wee - how nice! is it white wee wee? I hope not )

The board is just going to descend into foul degradation now isn't it, especially now the goat's out of the bag
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Old 25th May 2004, 02:50 PM
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Ahhh Fank yoo, your Czech is in the post along with a GOAT

*titter titter*



(Dick Wee - how nice! is it white wee wee? I hope not )

The board is just going to descend into foul degradation now isn't it, especially now the goat's out of the bag
oooooh yesssssssss now that u've lowered the goat!!
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(Dick Wee - how nice! is it white wee wee? I hope not )

No it's stinky yellow wee, and it's pissing over your goat as we speak!!!

(Didn't think i could lower the tone any more did ya!! )
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Old 25th May 2004, 09:54 PM
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I was very interested to see the mass discussion about "Lipstic, fake lesbos" or whatever you wanna call it!? As I think it was me who started it all by implying that if Cam doesn't like a bit of girl on girl then he must be gay!
Which was of course a joke!!!! Sorry if some people misunderstood and took it seriously!

The term 'Lipstick Lesbian' is used to describe women who display signs of being lesbian usually in a public place for attention, when in actual fact in the privacy of their own company have no sexual desires for each other, it was merely a show. I appologise if you feel in any way that these comments were describing yourself, if you read back my posts you will see that it was a direct pointer to Tv progs only and individuals were never at any stage mentioned. The confussion was only started when Sexipussi stated she was annoyed at 'fake lesbians' as she was a 'real lesbian' and found it hard enough without fakes. This naturally caused confussion as she was in a straight relationship, and by her own classifications of 'real lesbian' it was presumed she meant 'lesbian' as in the not 'bi' sense. This matter was cleared up once she explained that she was infact, and considered herself to enjoy sexual relationships with both male and females, thus meaning that she was not lesbian but bi.

At no stage through this thread did i state, or even imply that i viewed bi women as fake lesbians, this was an inferrence on your part only. A bi women is a women who enjoys sexual relationships with both women and men, a fake lesbian is a women who only pretends to like this- a big difference i think., and it is this pretence which causes offence- not true feelings or a natural expression of ones desire that we are all entiltled too.



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interested me was the fact that people could percieve me as a "lipstic lesbian", as I fall into all your catogorisations of what one is.


No you dont, not by may comments anyway, as i clearly state the difference between the two, again it was an inferrence on your behalf. If you feel that by my catagorisations that you are a fake lesbian, thats your call- i never directly put anyone into any box, thats your buisness- i would not comment on individuals- it was more a generic statment.


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You see I have shared intimate moments with women, I apreciate the beauty of women internally and externally, yet I don't see myself as a "REAL lesbian" In fact I don't see myself as homosexual, hetrosexual or bisexual.


It matters not as such what you view yourself- no-one lives thier life in a bubble, as descriptions like this are used to make life generally easier for the whole, we have to have a starting point, and that is of classifications. By your own description above you would be considered bi. Just like i am considered straight, blonde, a vegtable grower etc. Its just a description of one element of your life that makes you you.



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Why?
Because it's just a classification. It's stigmatising and putting a lable on who we are and what we do. It doesn't make me or anyone else more or less of a person because we are gay, straight, bi, alien whatever. We're still the same inside. And I don't believe there is such a thing as real or fake lesbian's. I don't think anyone would kiss another woman unless they wanted to (unless of course the were acting or were forced to do it)


Classifications are important, classifications are required for a number of reasons. If we did not class ourselves male or female for example then we would have unisex changing rooms at schools, this is problamatic straight away on a number of ethical issues re privacy. Plus we would not have well women clincs that are geared at improving the health of a 'classification', funding would not be allocated to specific 'classifications' that have been shown to be in the highest need.

Classifying sexual preference is important too. If we did not do it, then we would not have the service inplace to deal with the problems that face us when dealing with sexuality. If for example it was decided never to consider someone gay, then when this person has major mental health issues due to his feelings on acceting his gay status where will he go? No specialst 'gay' advice would be given as we are no longer to classify. You can not seriously argue for funding for a young gay help group if you have already stated that we have no 'gay' classification. We need to have a need to provide a service.

Classification and stigmatisation are two seperate things, stigma is a negative label of someone for a myriad of reasons, put on a classification by individuals who do not understand the situation, usually for an undesirable quality or feature such as disability. For example an individual could be classified as HIV Positive, and then society would add the stigma off sexual promiscuity onto this classification. The problem is not with classification but with stigma. It has never been suggested in any of my posts that i put stigma on any sexual grouping, merely adressed sexual classification.

I feel it is also important to point out that many individuals like to consider themselves as part of a classification, as it gives them a sense of belonging. Many individuals like to have a name, as it helps them to make sense of what they are. It would be very confusing for someone who is trying to identify who and what they are without a starting point.



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Expressing your sexuality freely, whether it's for your own sake or for the benifit of someone else does not degrade you as a woman. In fact it's the opposite that demeans women. Being told that you shouldn't be openly sexual because it might titilate the male species and make women just an object of desire is ridiculous and it puts an underminig stigma on women who are. Men are going to get turned on by women whether you're openly sexual or not. They can't help it! It's not a bad thing either or we wouldn't reproduce, would we?


I have no problem with women expressing thier sexuality freely, as long as its honest and not degrading to women as a whole. If you actually read what i put, i said that to put on a show for men and feel the need to act a forced sexual way for attention its degrading, again i did not mention bi or lesbian women doing in public what straight individuals do, only fake lesbians.


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However, if we use terms such as "slag" "slut" or even "fake lesbian" to determine a woman's behaviour then you're putting us into a category that state's we are nothing more than to be used for as a man's sexual tool. Women and Men should both be allowed to find themselves freely without having to be labelised.

Nobody used those derogatory terms, and i cannot be bothered going over the classification of fake lesbian again. Yes i agree that putting the label 'fake lesbian' om someone is stating that they are nothing more than a sexual tool- as in a nutshell that is my whole argument. If you act a false way for attention you are presenting not your true qualities as a women and what you are worth, just the forced ideology of what you think the mans sexual desire is, reducing yourself to nothing more than an object of his desire.

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so sorrrryyy 2 confuse everybody (or just u) miss joker jen, I do consider myself a lesbian as I like to fuk women?????????

I MEAN HOW ELSE WUD U DESCRIBE THAT??? PUSSI = LESBIAN??

the debate cud go on all day and nite realli couldnt it?? but u know the score jen jen.
u chat the biggest shit ever! ur not a les so be quiet! lol

u makin me piss wiv all this! what happened to i never wana man?

as for mistickle ur 100% into men so stop play actin aswel

and for the both of you if u r les' lets see some evidence and not shitty pics og u kissin ur antie (foa pussy) @ a family doo which u have on ur signature!!!



Joking girls just like to play hahahahaaa who cares if u's r anyway
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well thank u my dear amelie for ur concern and interest,


u c i believe in whateva makes someone happi then thats how they should b.
I am a very free person in spirit, soul and mind within.

I have found mi 1 true love and soul mate and we have connected deep inside. Like no other love, ever experienced before.

We have come together as one and feel a part of each other. Our souls have bonded and minds connected.

Just being together makes me feel complete. We are inseperable and when our eyes catch each others gaze, we are hypnotised by each other for what seems to be an eternity!

For that itself, my partner is able to accept and luv me for the free spirit that I am. which in turn of course makes me the luckiest and happiest person in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mr's soppi pussi xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
u takin the piss

J/K
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lets see some evidence and not shitty pics og u kissin ur antie (foa pussy) @ a family doo which u have on ur signature!!!
Far be it from me to be perverted like but go on get ya pussys out for the lads lol

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Old 26th May 2004, 09:30 AM
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u takin the piss

J/K
Lets play nicley now, try and keep it impersonal!
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Hello is this thread still going?



There's me thinking we were all =

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Old 26th May 2004, 09:54 AM
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u chat the biggest shit ever! ur not a les so be quiet! lol

u makin me piss wiv all this! what happened to i never wana man?

as for mistickle ur 100% into men so stop play actin aswel

and for the both of you if u r les' lets see some evidence and not shitty pics og u kissin ur antie (foa pussy) @ a family doo which u have on ur signature!!!


Joking girls just like to play hahahahaaa who cares if u's r anyway

Hey I might look old, but not old enough to be Roz's aunt, cheeky ****!!

Me and Amelie may have had a couple of disagreements on this thread but one of the points I'm in full agreement with her is monogamy - being faithful to your partner!!!!!!

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Old 26th May 2004, 09:55 AM
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Steadman I'm gonna say 2 words then I'll leave it to you to do the explaining!! "YOUR GIRLFRIEND"

Me and Amelie may have had a couple of disagreements on this thread but one of the points I'm in full agreement with her is monogamy - being faithful to your partner!!!!!!
well said that man
been cheated on myself andf would never do it to someone else
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Ive been in that boat is well shit, however I got my own back more than you could ever imagine and it was serious payback

However even I cant put up on this board what I did in order to get my own back !
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Old 26th May 2004, 10:25 AM
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well said that man
been cheated on myself andf would never do it to someone else
It's woman by the way!

Yeah, totally agree, it's one of the lowest things to do, and I've been cheated on twice, and can't understand why people do it. Just leaves you with serious trust issues and not wanting to bother with relationships ever again.
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It's woman by the way!

Yeah, totally agree, it's one of the lowest things to do, and I've been cheated on twice, and can't understand why people do it. Just leaves you with serious trust issues and not wanting to bother with relationships ever again.
aye trust is the thing that go's

funny dont think any of me male m8s are cheaters but i know plenty wimmin who are
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