Beheading - Link

[blue jammer]

Originally Posted by skippy

not seen it, and i think i'll avoid it.

i got caught out a couple of years ago with a clip from the war in chechnya.

someone had this guy pinned in the floor by standing on his head and he was crying and trying to get away, but this guy who was standing on him got a large knife, a divers type dagger, and stuck it straight through the middle of his neck and sawed through his throat to the front.

that haunted me for ages, the sound it made was just as bad as watching it, eww...

I too saw that, and someone once linked me to the full version

They continue to saw through the neck and remove the head and then hold it up to the camera - nice.

Those images are burned into my brain now forever.

I am completely desensitized now to pretty much anything out there, I've seen it all - from partly a morbid curiosity.

By the way, all the files on ogrish/bangedup/those kinda sites etc are mostly taken from the movies 'Faces Of Death' - of which there are about 5 or 6 volumes.

I downloaded and watched 4 of them, and whilst some of it is obviously faked, there were a few that were geniune, and it's not just one death after another, it's actually in the form of a documentary, and I found the underwater diving death scenes fascinating.

All the sites showing clips of things like this, are just out for SHOCK value, when you watch the full picture, it's a lot different - as anyone who has seen the docu 'Executions' will tell you.

[looby]

Originally Posted by johns_ar

the one on ogrish is clear?

lol, dunno what 'ogrish' is, cant remember the site i saw it on but it had a full translation of what that turban headed twat was saying, seemed to be a fairly official site.

i can have a look for the address if you really want me to

[nathan]

If I found it I would watch it and then probably regret it totally. It is morbid curiousity. how come everyone else can find it and i can't

[johns_ar]

ogrish.com m8

[nathan]

watching that i'm seriously doubting the authenticity of it. Not sure about that at all

[glazzy]

Originally Posted by nathan

watching that i'm seriously doubting the authenticity of it. Not sure about that at all

yes i thought that too, but i did watch it through the gaps in my fingers cos i was totally shittin it!! i've read things on a couple of sites that are doubting it too... lack of blood, odd things about the executioners... i don't think it's true atall, the timing is too convenient aswell

jayne x

[nathan]

the ackma-balla shouting doesn't sound right

[piratepete]

now before i speil i hope to god this vid is fake but if not this will cause as much outrage as 9/11 and make a lot more pple realy take note that this is not a war in iraq its one that maybe soon on our doorstep.how long before it is someone brittish, the uk has been luckywith terror attack luckly any planned have been stopped befor anything happened.........
i think the vid is genuine it takes a long time to cut the guys head off and he screams like a baby listen to him properly and listen to the sounds .the knife used isnt suitable for beheading its i think a kris stlye blade (curvy) adding to the real factor (do you know what to use to behead someone ) as for the quailty do u realy expect them to be using a decent camcorder. in my opinion it is real a couple of the things u see are a bit dodgy but on the whole its authentic in the difficultys that they have i have a gut feeling about it besides the up chuck one lololol ive seen quite a few vids clips ect of real incadents accidents an stuff and it looks as real as them ive seen some sick stuff .this has made my list of sick. my previos was of a man getting shot point blank range in the chest in a roit the camera zoomed into his face and body as he slowly died he had a clear hole blown the his torso and a lot of blood loads infact and you saw him die trying to speak .what had he done wrong nothing but run away in panik from terrorists and startled a copper .

lets hope its fake infact pray it is cos if its real it shows what we will have to deal with these pple arnt human the are evil as final solution germany under nazi rule with no regard or value for human life

[blue jammer]

What you see is exactly what you see.

It's possible he was already dead before they cut his head off though, that would explain the lack of blood, and due to the blurring in the film, that would suggest an edit between the first shot (filmed earlier where he would be alive) to them pulling him over (when dead) and then the removal of the head.

Let's face it, if you're going to cut someone's head off for shock value, you're not going to want to be sprayed with their blood whilst doing it.

[sirius]

I think Iraqi's and sympathisers to the 'cause' should stop whinging for a start, and Id be of the attitude that far from pull out or pussy foot around that Id take this beheading as a good reason to 'kick even more arse' and stamp the gits down a peg or two.

Yeah, lets behead someone just for retaliation to a bit of humiliation - wtf?. I dont think he was even a soldier and was infact there to help rebuild the shithole!. The Iraqi's seem to still be in the mindset of middle age savages on a range of aspects of life - thats my opinion and Im entitled to it, I think they are on the majority a bunch of hotheaded morons with no concept of civilised society and tolerance to other faiths. Once again on a TV news report there was an Iraqi 'leader' or preacher on a soap box in the street waving photo's of the 'british' mistreatment - the fellow Iraqi's in thier usual pose of one hand jabbing in the air in a sort of brainwashed state at everything he's saying. Some of them just seemed to be half heartedly jabbing cos they were expected to do it in society or something like its embarassing NOT to be seen jabbing and waving. Talk about sheep, christ, its like theyve been slipped Fundamentalist pills in thier sleep or something. Shouting and jumping up and down in the street en mass over every minute little thing isnt going to help sort the country out is it you flippin' morons. Try and help sort yourselves out atleast ffs, they just seem to expect it to sort itself out or something.

There is two issues here I think, ones that are becoming indestiguishable from one another - the rebuilding of a so called democracy in Iraq and fighting to stop militant groups taking control or forcing a vote, oil and greed n all the rest of it, and the war of Islam and the current vocal upsurge to try and put Islam across the world which you cant but notice is in the background too (a la Bin Laden and his cronies). If you dont pave way for Islam, youre branded somesort of racist so they then get all what they want, if you say anything against Islam youre made to feel somesort of uneducated bafoon like its 'the only way' and followers of the faith are SO much more enlightened than anyone else. If you go against it in any way or form you become a legitimate target for suicide bombers n stuff . Its crazy.

I think the Media in this country have a lot to answer for, ever since this whole thing kicked off. Sure, nobody likes or wants war, its nasty, horrible, but unfortunately sometimes it has to be done for the greater benefit of others. The way every news reel and report has had an anti-war and undermining taste in its mouth has got right on my tits, also, the change in newsreading tactics where its all gossip and speculation for example where a newsreader would come on in full safari jacket and say something like "Its rumoured here" or "We can draw our own conlusions that...." and all the rest of it. Thats not news, thats one sided speculation and propoganda peddling to implant further disarray and distrust in the whole effort - who's rumour? whose conclusion? Its a farce.
The way the media feed on a story like a pirranha on a steak, with in your face camera footage of every bullet fired isnt helping anyone and winds me up to be honest, and infact its making me (for one) more imune to it. Im sick of hearing about Iraq, fundamentalists, and all the rest of it. The media would be bankrupt if they didnt love to fan the flames of misery to report futher on.


Im not going to watch a beheading. I have no curiousity, I have an imagination and thats enough for me. The thought of a slow knife saw through the neck is quite preturbing enough without seeing it. I heard before that you can actually still see and hear for upto a few minutes after its severed before you flip out and snuff it, your face muscles twitching etc. Shocking stuff.


Ive not tuned into the news for a few days, but I hear that those Lancashire photo's are fakes - which if thats true make sme beg the question who made them and for what purpose?? The way the media has publicised the so called 'abuse' and it being shown on Iraqi TV etc is nothing but bloody treasonous in my view and it could still endager the lives our our lads out there just for a 'good meaty story'.


I REALLY do hope this video turns out to be fake in a counter propoganda drive from Iraqi's.



Sirius.

[STEADMANSCOTT]

It is sick but id still like to watch it tho

[dj_jam]

wat did they use????? is it real>?

[STEADMANSCOTT]

Originally Posted by DJJAMIII

wat did they use????? is it real>?

YEH I THINK!! AM TRYIN TO LOOK 4 THE LINK ON GOOGLE LOL