Yeah, I hear what youre saying, some good points there MsMinx

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Im talking more about the walking crimewaves really, ones whose beaten grannies to within an inch of thier lives and been done for like 200 or 300 burglaries, not probably 80% of the 'normal' youngsters whose lost thier way. I think you have to draw the line at some point with these types who just arent interested in life, throwing more money and 'schemes' at them isnt necessarily a solution to the underlying problems. Each case is different isnt it.
Some of them have had awful upringings, parents dying, drug addict parents, being born addicted to heroin, physical and sexual abuse, its terrible. I know Im fortunate. I suppose Ive lost my heart to those middle class or estate yobbo's who take fun and pleasure in what they do, uncontrollable and quite frankly evil loving gangs who are not from broken homes. For example the gang of kids earlier in the year that broke into that zoo and kicked a load of seals and other animals or something to death - how can you argue a case for that? They are sick in the head Im afraid, robbing to survive or feed a habit or whatever I can understand, kicking animals (a lot of animals) to death in such a brutal manner makes me wanna wash my hands of them, I cant get my head round it, just evil mentality. enoughs enough for them.
Im a bad product of society myself in some ways, I lack life/world skills that some 10-12 year olds have these days from rough backgrounds due to my abscence from partaking in even a slightly mispent youth. They can look after themselves in life in a lot of cases, which is more than I can do sometimes lol....
Im really proud of your efforts, especially when its (allegedly) made so easy to sit back and do nothing - and then you get penalised for it financially if you do something!!! - thats the point Im trying to make in some ways - theres no incentive to do what you did if you didnt have ambition and will within yourself. My cousin is a single mum, but by the time she had worked it out, costs of travelling to work, etc etc, she was only £8 a week better off than on benefits - not many would go to work for only £8 - £20 more a week..I think its often made slightly too easy to claim benifits, Im not saying they live a life of luxury by any means though.
Sirius.